• Login / Sign In
  • Subscribe
  • Donate
Krishnamurti Portal
  • Home
  • TOPICS
  • About the KFA
  • Contact Us
  • Browse
  • Menu

  • Overlay

Click Left
Other Topics Click Right
Other Topics
Click Up
Same Topic Click Down
Same Topic

  • Share This Quote

    ...thought has created we call religion. You might say it is divine revelation straight from heaven, but that very idea 'straight from heaven', or 'revelation' is still the activity of thought - super-consciousness and so on, all those inventions of the gurus that have come to this country, unfortunately. You have your own gurus, the priests - don't...

  • Share This Quote

    ...thought is ever creating is ever in limitation and therefore isolating itself. Therefore in relationship where there is activity of thought there must be conflict. Get it? No, but see the reality of it. See the actuality of this fact, not as an idea, as a something that is happening in my life, in one's active daily life - divorces, quarrels,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...ambition. And that is one of the activities. And from that will arises the desire to control. Please follow all this. To control - control one thought by another thought, one activity of thought by another activity of thought. 'I must control my desire' - the 'I' is put together by thought, a verbal statement as the 'me' with its memories,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...it is not, then what is the function of the brain? You understand? If I am not concerned with myself everlastingly in my meditation - you know all that kind of silly stuff, then what place has thought and is there a new instrument altogether which is not the activity of thought? Am I making myself clear? We can see what thought has done in the...

  • Share This Quote

    My consciousness and yours, if we have been brought up, programmed, conditioned to be individual, then my consciousness is all this activity of thought - fear is thought, we will go into that presently. Pursuit of pleasure is the movement of thought. And the suffering, the anxiety, the uncertainty, the deep regrets, wounds, the burden of centuries...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Perhaps not in India because here perhaps we are thirty, forty years behind. But this is a problem that is facing mankind. That the machine, invented by thought takes all the activity of thought and leaves man what? What has he then? Do you understand all this sirs? It can be told how to meditate, and it will tell you how to meditate - it becomes...

  • Share This Quote

    So we are going to go into it further the day after tomorrow when we meet, whether there is a possibility of finding something totally new which is not the activity of thought. Right? May I get up?

  • Share This Quote

    A religious life, not all the religions, not the monks and all that. They are not religious. I know they would abhor me when I say that. I will show it to you logically why it is not. It is all put together by thought. The invention of god is put there by thought. It is simple. All this is clear when you understand the activity of thought.

  • Share This Quote

    ...senses, exaggerates the senses, gives importance to a certain sense and not to the others, that creates images, conclusions, aggressiveness, assertiveness. All that is the activity of thought. Right? So thought predominates all our activity, including the senses, dominating the intelligence of the body. You are following all this? So thought is...

  • Share This Quote

    So the speaker says creativity can never take place where there is the activity of thought. And the question then arises: can thought be quiet, can thought be put aside for a while? Then who is it that helps thought to put it aside? It is still thought. I don't know if you are following all this. So it is a very complex process. And they have...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Now when you say you are aware, what do you mean by that? Know, recognise. Is thought recognising the attachment? You follow? You say, 'Yes, I'm attached' - is it the activity of thought that says, 'I am attached'? - you follow? Go into this please with me. Take a few minutes. Pay attention. Please, sir,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...We have said that thought is a material process because it is sustained, nourished in the brain cells. The speaker is not a scientist but you can watch it in yourself, watch the activity of your own brain, which is the activity of thought. So if we can put aside all that voluntarily, easily, without any resistance, then you will inevitably ask: is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...religiously, thought has broken up me separate from you, my soul and your soul, my salvation is through there, and your salvation is through there. The activity of thought has produced this. Right? Thought is knowledge, experience, which is the past movement. So there is nothing sacred in thought. And all the things it creates is not sacred. You...

  • Share This Quote

    ...is dividing. That is the truth, whether you see it or not, it is so. Now then what are you to do with it. I have to earn a livelihood for bettering my - I have to leave this tent to go home, which is all the activity of thought. I have to tell my friends where I have been, and that is the activity of thought and so on. Knowing thought brings about...

  • Share This Quote

    ...we do is based on thought. Right? That is clear. All our activity is based on thought. Our relationship is based on thought. Our inventions, the technological and the non-technological is still the activity of thought. The gods we have created and the rituals, the mass and the whole circus of all that is the product of thought. So what place has...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Thought has invented gods all over the world, for the last millennia upon millennia, those gods are limited, (laughs) naturally. So whatever the activity of thought and its action must always be limited. Therefore thought is not holistic. You understand? If we can realise this simple fact that the thought and the thinker are one, and therefore...

  • Share This Quote

    ...desire says, 'I must achieve that something which I experienced yesterday in the sitting quietly, and I want that, I want it to continue'. I practise, I force, I follow a system - all the activity of thought. That's all. What are you objecting...

  • Share This Quote

    ...can thought realise its own limitation? Not say to thought that you are limited, which would be another thought saying - to realise the very activity of thought is limited. Then is there something sacred which is not put together by thought. You understand? Till we understand very deeply the nature of thought, which has its place - right? - I must...

  • Share This Quote

    So we are asking: is intelligence the activity of thought? Or it is totally outside the realm of thought, which then can use thought. You follow, not the other way around. I wonder if I'm making myself clear. So one has to enquire into the nature of intelligence. One must very carefully examine the only instrument apparently we have, which is...

  • Share This Quote

    JK: I think it is again the activity of thought. Thought in its very nature, thought is divisive, fragmentary and therefore I am a fragment.

  • Share This Quote

    ...energy given to the destruction of man; different ideologies; the communist, socialist, the capitalist and so on. Ideologies, spending enormous energy. All this is the activity of thought.

  • Share This Quote

    ...examining, that is the difficulty. I see personally that the activity of thought is limited, entirely, in any direction, whether it is in the technological world, in the world of the computer and so on, or psychologically it is thought, with all its activity, is limited, and therefore there must be conflict. That is understood. And when that is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...an idea of what it calls god, there there is security - god is all omnipotent, god is all just, god is all love, god is all you know, all the rest of it. Which are all the activity of thought. Right? So thought is responsible for the gods, for all the churches, for all the temples, for all the mosques, the whole business of it. And thought is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...those books. Your own particular book which you call sacred - the Bible, the Koran, your own literature, it is all put down by thought. You may say, it is revealed by - but it is still the activity of thought.

  • Share This Quote

    ...will go into this question much more deeply another time. What we are pointing out is that where there is the activity of thought, thought itself being limited, must bring about division - national, political, religious, the whole structure of man's activity, which is destroying the world. You go up to the moon and plant a flag up there, there is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...world, because it is limited it has broken up the world - right? - as the Arab and the Jew, the Hindu, Muslim, the Christian, the Buddhist, the Hindu, and so on, the Sikh, it is the activity of thought, which is in itself always limited, must create division and therefore conflict. Right? Right? Then you say, you will say, is there any other...

  • Share This Quote

    ...certain quietness, certain experience and that delights you. You say, 'At last I have got something'. Right? And I say that is the activity of desire, activity of thought, which has projected an image of something to be experienced. And that image can be experienced only through certain practices, certain repetition of words, especially in...

  • Share This Quote

    And we are asking, is love the activity of thought? Is love the activity of the senses? Is love the activity of desire? Please find out, investigate in your life. When you are controlled, when your sex becomes all important, which is the activity of the senses.

  • Share This Quote

    So we are asking whether thought, the activity of thought, which engenders, which breeds, which sustains, which nourishes fear, can naturally, happily, easily, come to an end, without any determination, without any resistance, without any activity of the will.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Not that professionals don't enquire, I don't mean that. We are ordinary laymen, we are enquiring into this very, very complex problem which is, consciousness, the quality of the what is the Quality, not the structure, the nature, the cells and all that, but the brain and the mind. Right? (Laughs) Please don't look at me, look at...

  • Share This Quote

    K: How will you convey it to me? You can verbalise it, you can say it is not this, it is not that, or it is this, it is that, but you can't the essence of it, the quality of it, the beauty of it, the potency of it, you can't give it to me.

  • Share This Quote

    So you have found one thing. Motive, will, introspection. If you have got rid of those three then what is the quality of your mind, the quality?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Yes. I have a feeling sir, just, don't laugh at it, it may be false, it may be true. I feel that the brain never loses the quality of that movement. I don't know if I am

  • Share This Quote

    ...- you understand? Whether you mean what you say. It's your, not theory, it's yours, you understand in the sense you have found it. So what you are, the quality of your voice, the quality of your being, says, go east. And I say, by Jove, I have listened to you very, very carefully and then I go east, I forget north. It depends whether you are...

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, don't use that. Don't, please. Go into it, sir, find out what is the quality of your mind when it has put aside that which has no validity.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Are you answering my question, sir? What is the quality of your mind, your consciousness when you realise, or when there is the realisation that you are part, integral part of the whole, whole of humanity? What has taken place when there is perception of that?

  • Share This Quote

    JK: No, no. What happens before, the quality is not me, then in that there is conflict, either suppression, escape and all the rest of it, which is a wastage of energy. When that quality is me I am - there is, all that energy which has been wasted, is there to look, to observe.

  • Share This Quote

    ...group therapy, which is an abomination, exposing each other's faults, and hoping thereby to clear up something. We are going to talk over together, examine the quality of our minds, the quality of our hearts, the quality of our brain. To examine you must be free to look. Right sirs? Free to look into yourself. That means there must be no...

  • Share This Quote

    K: I give it up. Experiment, sir, do it now, find out if you can listen without a word. Find out what is the quality of that listening, and find out whether that quality is imagined or real.

  • Share This Quote

    Is there one thing, one quality that will end my seeking and my confusion? If there is, tell me what to do? You understand the full meaning of this question?

  • Share This Quote

    Then what is the quality of your mind when opinion has no place in it, belief has no place in it, when what others or the culture says has no place in it? And also you have seen the meaning, the structure and the nature of pleasure and desire, what is the quality of the mind - the quality of that mind that has seen this, seen the whole movement of...

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, no. Sir, when both of us are like that, what is the quality of that state? Not the absence of thought, but the quality, the perfume, the thing. Wouldn't you call that love?

  • Share This Quote

    K: I am asking a question, sir, do listen please. We have made that statement; somebody says, 'I understand that very clearly, I see the truth of it'. What is the quality of the mind that says, 'I understand, I see the truth of it, I have an insight into it' - what is the quality of that mind?

  • Share This Quote

    ...there listening to this poor chap talking, you are stimulated by music, cinema. And I am asking you if you are not stimulated by an outside agency then what is the quality of this awareness - which means you must be totally free of the external stimuli - are you?

  • Share This Quote

    ...Wait - what am I to do? I live I must answer this question, please. I earn my livelihood at teaching in a school, in a system, that is overburdened, that is mechanical, that in every class there are fifty to sixty students, they have no order, each crushing, all the rest of it. How am I, given this condition, to teach wholly? Can you do it there?...

  • Share This Quote

    ...for it to come to an end? No method, obviously. Right? Method implies time. Somebody gives you the method, the system, if you practise that method, that system, it will make your mind more and more mechanical, more and more conflict with 'what is' and the system. Right? You are following all this? The system promises you one thing but the fact is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...this division, separation? How is one to live so that there is complete harmony inwardly as well as outwardly? The moment we have a formula, a system, that very system and formula bring about a separation - your system and my system. So the question of 'how' doesn't come into this at all. If I say to myself, how am I to live with great...

  • Share This Quote

    ...sir, a great sense of attention, love, care. But if you haven't got that your old instrument is in operation. And then you say, 'How am I to pay attention? Tell me the method, the system'. Then thought invents the system, then you become a prisoner to the system and you go on with that. Whereas if you see the importance, the danger of separation...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Sir, look, if I may point out - we will have to stop because I believe we must clear out of the hall by half past twelve, it is nearly that so we must stop - look, sir, there is no 'how', there is no system, please see this. We will go into it another time, but see this. Don't ever ask of anybody 'how' - how am I to become intelligent, how am I...

  • Share This Quote

    K: I have shown you, sir. The moment you ask 'how' - see the reason, sir, see the logic of it - the moment I ask 'how' you want a pattern, you want a system. That very system is the expression of the self.

  • Share This Quote

    You know, to change the environment there must be a system, a method - method, system, is to act efficiently. Just follow this. If you want to change the environment round here there must be planning, what to do. If you want to build a house you have to plan. And when you establish a system, what takes place? Outwardly, what takes place? There...

  • Share This Quote

    Krishnamurti: Don't you think we ought to first enquire, what is education, rather than what subjects, what books, what system, what kind of teachers and so on and so on. Shouldn't we first ask: why are we being educated? The word 'education', or what it all means, but I mean I would like to know, I would like to ask, if I may, why we are being...

  • Share This Quote

    ...is not an entertainment, either emotionally, romantically, or ideologically. And this is important to understand, if you will. We are not propagating any ideas, ideals, no system, or philosophical concepts, theories. We are going together to not only investigate but also to observe without analysis, without prejudice, without any kind of previous...

  • Share This Quote

    K: 'Would you please explain how to run the new school without a system.' Mrs Simmons? I think there is a way of running a school without a system, sir. Which means - do listen to this - the teacher, the educator is the result of a system, he is the system. And he has got a student who is also caught in this system, not so completely as the...

  • Share This Quote

    ...and the brain that has got such extraordinary capacity, infinite capacity. And when we ask what is meditation, it is not asking for a system, for a method, because if you practise a system, a method, that becomes mechanical, you are caught in that system, in that method. See the logic of it. For God's sake see the truth of it, so that you are...

  • Share This Quote

    ...to know how to read the alphabet, he has to learn the alphabet. Right? So he goes through, carefully he is taught how to write a, b, c, and so on. In the same way, there is no 'how', just watch! The moment you ask 'how', you ask for a system, a method; and when you practise a method, a system in order to understand yourself, you are becoming...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I am going to show you, sir. One thing, right? I must know myself, not according to any philosophy, according to any scientist, according to any psychiatrist, and so on - not according to any system. I am understanding the system, not myself. See the difference. Now how do I understand myself without any deception, otherwise I have played a wrong...

  • Share This Quote

    ...You spend years - I don't know how many years you spend to become a scientist, and you won't even give five minutes to this. I think to ask, if I may most respectfully point out, to ask how is to ask for a system. Right? And system inevitably has destructive quality inherent in it - entropy and the rest of it. So, in my relationship I discover...

  • Share This Quote

    Audience: Are you saying that if we have a system for solving problems then every time we approach a problem we use our system instead of understanding?

  • Share This Quote

    ...endless chatter, chatter; wasted in the pursuit of innumerable desires without understanding what is desire and so on. We have got tremendous energy - to go to the moon requires tremendous energy and thousands of people. So we have untold energy if that energy is not misused or...

  • Share This Quote

    ...his video, and all that business. So what is this energy? We cannot possibly exist without this energy. Right? There is no existence on earth without this energy: the trees, tremendous energy to pull up water right to the top, tons of it. That is tremendous energy. To build an aeroplane, hundreds of people are responsible for it. To go to the moon...

  • Share This Quote

    ...we are wasting our energy through all these series of conflicts. And where there is fear, that is the epitome of waste. That is the summation of waste. And we need energy, tremendous energy. As you have tremendous energy when you want to earn money, when you want to become famous, when your sexual appetites demand, you have got tremendous energy....

  • Share This Quote

    K: Energy, energy. Now, what happens? This is not some hocus-pocus, some kind of mystical experience. There is actual fear and I have tremendous energy which has come because there is no dissipation of energy. So what takes place? So, wait, wait, wait.

  • Share This Quote

    ...are using the word 'energy' not in the scientific sense, but the energy which you need, which the mind needs to go beyond itself. I need tremendous energy to transform envy, not into non-envy but to change envy totally. I need energy. You need energy to get up in the morning. You need energy to work. And we are talking of energy in which there is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...been working together for this whole hour, giving your attention to listening, to seeing, to learning, you must be... you follow? You must have gathered tremendous energy, and with that energy we are going to enquire. Not stimulated by the speaker, then it is like taking a drug, it will be a verbal drug. But if we are moving together, like a...

  • Share This Quote

    ...one of our problems, please, you understand? You realise how one wastes energy in conflict, in battles. It took tremendous energy to kill people, wars, now you have no war - actual, physical war - but you have economic war going on - right? - you have religious war. We know how all that energy is being wasted. Now you say, 'I have this energy',...

  • Share This Quote

    ...my feelings as though I was different from my feeling. Now I realise the truth that I am that. Therefore I remain with it. And when you remain with it, hold it, you are out of that, that gives you tremendous energy. And that energy dissipates, ends that violence completely. Not for a day, not while you are sitting here, but it's the end of...

  • Share This Quote

    ...also we ought to share together the energy, energy that is required in meditation. You need tremendous energy to meditate. So we ought to go into that question of energy. Friction is not energy. When we are in our daily life there is a great deal of friction, conflict between people, the work which we don't like to do, there is a wastage of...

  • Share This Quote

    ...griefs, with our own pains, with our own pity and vanity and all the rest of it. We have a great deal of energy. Look what is happening in the world - tremendous energy to invent new things, new gadgets, new ways of killing others. To go to the moon needs tremendous energy, concentration, both intellectual and actual. We've got tremendous energy,...

  • Share This Quote

    K: We don't listen or learn because of fear? You know why do we take so long to learn about something like this which is so clear, which is so simple, which gives you such a tremendous practical way of life and gives you tremendous energy? Why do we refuse all this?

  • Share This Quote

    As you spend your energy going to the office or the laboratory or a particular scientific discipline and so on - you give great deal of energy in all these directions - for power, money, and position, recognition, fame, all the notoriety of all that - you spend tremendous energy going to the office day after day, day after day, for fifty, sixty years; and trying to cure others when you need curing yourself.

  • Share This Quote

    Whereas if the mind remained alone with sorrow, alone, not trying to run away, not trying to resist it, remain with it, completely alone, then you will see out of that 'alone' perception there comes that tremendous energy that transforms that sorrow into passion, not lust, into passion, into intensity, into a tremendous energy, which no book, no guru, no teacher can give.

  • Share This Quote

    K: The gentleman says that is very encouraging. Don't be encouraged by another. Because then another can also disappoint you. But if you see what is possible then it releases tremendous energy. You understand, sir. Possible.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Of course, of course, that's understood. And also you, you expend tremendous energy. Right, sir? What for? What for, in relation to the world, not just... So I'm asking, is it possible - please, I'm just asking these questions - is it possible to bring about a totally different human being? You understand? Not educationally - more knowledge, more...

  • Share This Quote

    ...it is, actually. Is it all the pleasure, the pain, the anxiety, the jealousy, the struggle, with occasional flashes of tenderness? Is all that part of love? Is attachment love? Sir, I am asking these questions, go into it, find out, sirs. One is attached to one's wife, tremendous attachment. What is implied in that attachment? One cannot stand by...

  • Share This Quote

    ...what is going on in yourself. Therefore you have to give attention to it. Why is a human being attached to another? And what happens if he is not attached? And is attachment love? Does not attachment breed fear - because you may lose it? Being attached you may become jealous, frightened, anxious, which are obvious phenomena. And you are attached...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I hear you. And because I really am in earnest, serious, I want to find out. I really want to find out. So I give attention to what you are saying. And when you say, 'Is attachment love?' I say, 'Am I attached to my daughter, to my wife?' I investigate in myself. You understand? I say, am I? And if I am not attached will I become irresponsible?...

  • Share This Quote

    ...if there is no jealousy, a sense of each one asserting, people imagine that there is no love, or that there is love - this state is love. Right? So I am asking from that: is attachment love? We are thinking over together, you and I. So are you attached to your...

  • Share This Quote

    K: We went through that. We went through that the other day. Is attachment love? When you are attached can you love? Silence!

  • Share This Quote

    ...it implies both so I won't repeat it over and over and over again - man and woman. Is there love? Actually, not theoretically. In that love, is there attachment? And is attachment love? And what is the basis of attachment? Why is one attached to something? - to a property, to an idea, to an ideology, to a person, to a symbol, to a concept which...

  • Share This Quote

    ...sensation attached to thought, thought attached to sensation, and from that sensation desire, and that desire wants to fulfil and we call that love. Is that love? Is attachment love? In attachment there is conflict, there is uncertainty and therefore the more there is uncertainty the more the fear of loneliness, the more you become attached,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...enlarged it. Don't look puzzled or say, No, that can't be - we are going into it. Is love attachment? You understand? I am attached to my girl or boy. I possess. So is attachment love? And our whole life is based on attachment - attachment to property, attachment to a person, attachment to a belief, to a dogma, to Christ, to Buddha, whatever it is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...like primitive people, barbarians killing each other. So we ought to consider what is the relationship between love and sorrow. If one loses one's brother, wife and children, if one is attached; and is attachment love? Where there is attachment there must be suffering. Attachment breeds fear, anxiety, pain, grief, sense of utter loss. And that...

  • Share This Quote

    ...and possession, there begins the act of cruelty. The cruelty of jealousy. Right? The cruelty of anxiety, fear, hatred. Right? You know all this, don't you? So I am asking: is attachment love? If you are not attached, would that be love? Then you might chase another woman, or another man. And when there is jealousy, is that love? And to come upon...

  • Share This Quote

    ...of power, position, a sense of the avoidance of loneliness, and when I say 'I love you' it means I'm attached to you. Is that love? Go on, sir, investigate it. Is attachment love? Obviously...

  • Share This Quote

    ...fact? We have analysed it briefly, which we can go into it much more deeply but can one observe this extraordinary fact of self, of dependence, attachment? So one asks: is attachment love? Is love possession? My wife, my girl, my husband - attachment. Is that love? If that is love then it has a cause. Right? Because I depend on you because you...

  • Share This Quote

    ...is. You know all this. If you went and told your wife or husband, 'I am no longer attached to you,' what would happen? Does it deny love? Does it deny relationship? Is attachment love? Go on, enquire into all this and the deeper you enquire, the more vitality and security and strength one has. It hasn't derived from any drugs, any...

  • Share This Quote

    And what is important is to find out, as we said, what is right relationship between human beings, not according to some theory, not according to some religious book, not according to what you wish a relationship should be, but rather to examine actually what is going on, what is our relationship to another, actually, not theoretically, not according to what somebody said in ancient times, or modern times - what actually your relationship is with another.

  • Share This Quote

    ...If you're not related properly to nature, the trees, birds, to nature, then you are not properly related to man or woman. And life is relationship, and it becomes very, very important to find out what is right relationship. We'll start with facts, and we're only dealing with facts, not with ideas what relations should be, should not be, what it...

  • Share This Quote

    ...relationship. And the communists, the socialists, the democrats, the politicians, are trying to change the nature, the structure of society. The basic question is to have right relationship with another. If you have it with one person you have it with everybody, with nature, with all the things of the beauty of the...

  • Share This Quote

    ...all the business, the transcendental meditation and all that, becomes utter stupid nonsense. Unless you establish right relationship between you and another, that being the very basis of existence, trying to meditate becomes an evasion of the actual. Therefore leads to all kinds of neurotic, destructive results....

  • Share This Quote

    K: Quite. So let's move from there. We say as long as you have an image, pleasant or unpleasant, created, etc., etc., put together by thought and so on, there is no right relationship. That is an obvious fact. Right?

  • Share This Quote

    ...we continue with what we were talking about yesterday? We were saying how important it is that we establish in ourselves right relationship with others, whether it be an intimate relationship or a relationship with a neighbour who might be next door or a thousand miles away. Because relationship without a conclusion, an image, brings about...

  • Share This Quote

    K: For yourself to be in right relationship. Are you in right relationship with your husband, with your wife, with your children? Of course not! We say, we must be, we should teach them don't be like me.

  • Share This Quote

    ...living is relationship. If there is no right relationship there is no living at all, it is then merely a series of conflicts, either ending up in divorce, or just separation, or isolation with all its anxieties, attachments, fears and all the things that are involved in this sense of being completely isolated. I am sure you know all this. The more...

  • Share This Quote

    ...fighting, quarrelling, ambitious. And why does this state exist? Is it not because each person is concerned with himself? So he is isolating himself. In isolation you cannot have right relationship. You understand, this is so terribly obvious. You hear this, but you will not do anything about it because we fall into habit; we fall into a rut, into...

  • Share This Quote

    ...certainty. And a man who really is concerned to bring about a totally different kind of morality, behaviour, a social structure; until he understands and brings about right relationship with another, he is contributing to the brutality, to the violence, to the extraordinary things that are going on in this ugly, mad world.

  • Share This Quote

    ...we continue with what we were talking about yesterday? We were pointing out how important it is to have right relationship with each other. As we see it now, in relationship there is a great deal of trouble, conflict, bitterness, jealousy, anxiety. And if we apply our minds, our hearts, to bring about right relationship in which, as we explained...

  • Share This Quote

    ...cut itself off from every form of relationship. And relationship is the most important thing in life, because if we have not right relationship with one - please listen to this - if we have not right relationship with the one, you cannot possibly have right relationship with any other human being. You can imagine you'll have better relationship...

  • Share This Quote

    ...So to find out what is right action, because this demands tremendous, you know, inward insight into all this. It demands that you have right relationship with another - right relationship being no image-making at all. We are going into that, if you are interested, a little later. Then if there is fear of any kind, psychologically as well as...

  • Share This Quote

    ...can I find out something that's immensely beyond all this? Beyond time, beyond thought, beyond measure. I can't. 'Till we have established right relationship between us, which is order, how can I find that which is supreme order? So I must begin with you, not with that. I don't know if you are meeting...

  • Share This Quote

    K: But I question whether they are really concerned with bringing about a right relationship between human beings, fundamentally, not superficially, just to adjust themselves for the day.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Sir, I would like to ask whether we are discussing speculatively, theoretically, or actually? Actually in the sense of applying, apply in the sense, functioning not theoretically but with facts. Right? Could we do that? Am I proposing something outrageous? Because to me theories, speculations, whether psychological, spiritual, have no meaning to...

  • Share This Quote

    K: I am related to my wife. What does that mean? Facts, not theories, suppositions, and hopes and what I would like, but facts, everyday fact.

  • Share This Quote

    So why do human beings cling to opinions and not facts? You can conclude from a fact an opinion. Right? A fact can be made into an opinion, but the opinion is not the fact. I may have an accident in a car and you come along and see it, and have umpteen opinions about it, but the fact is I have an accident. So why do we have opinions at all, about...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Some of the facts, many of the facts, as many as you can: your anger, your jealousies, your hurts, your anxieties, your fears, your pleasures, your beliefs, your opinions, your judgements, your egotism, your violence, your arrogance - you follow? - the whole of that.

  • Share This Quote

    ...religion? Obviously it is not. So if you discard all that, discard it absolutely so that there are no illusions, but only facing facts, facts being that which is actually happening in our daily life, those are facts, and that which is happening is from the movement of thought which has put together our consciousness. So we are asking something,...

  • Share This Quote

    K: So we have to discuss what are facts. Right? What are facts? I would say what are facts, is that which is happening. Actually happening. Would you agree to that?

  • Share This Quote

    ...no longer, if he's at all aware, intelligent and conscious of what is going on, he has put aside all that rubbish. You may not agree but please listen to the very end of it, if you have the patience and if you want to face facts. Because facts do not need opinions, they are so. How you translate facts depends on your background, on your...

  • Share This Quote

    ...This is obvious, isn't it, sir? Non-violence is not actual, it is an ideal opposed to violence. Right? Right, sirs? So if you had no ideals but only facts, you are only dealing with facts, then there is no contradiction. I wonder if you see this. I'll show it to you,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...we have often repeated, an entertainment, either intellectual, verbal twistings and innuendoes, nor romantic theories and speculations and sentimental nonsense. We are dealing with facts. As we said, facts are those which have happened, and that which is happening now - those are facts. And what is happening tomorrow is not a fact, or a thousand...

  • Share This Quote

    ...medically and otherwise? And apparently that is what is happening - the cultivation of memory about facts, technologically educated, so that human beings throughout the world can earn a livelihood, settle down in a particular pattern of society, and totally, completely disregard the whole psychological structure of man. That is what is actually...

  • Share This Quote

    ...the fact that I am violent. That violence is shown when I get angry, when I am jealous, when I am trying to compare myself with another. If I am doing all that, then it is impossible to face facts. A good mind faces facts. If you are in business, you face facts and deal with the fact, change the fact. You don't pretend that you will do something...

  • Share This Quote

    ...If we cannot do it, we are going to have wars perpetually, we will be weeping perpetually, always in conflict, misery and all the rest of it. The speaker is not optimistic or pessimistic, these are facts. When one lives with facts as they are, as you observe them, not data given by the computers or the poets but watching your own activity, your...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I want to find out how I approach this, you follow sir? Whether I am living actually realising, or theory. Now these are the two facts, they are both facts. Right? Conclusions, theories, beliefs, and facts. Now how do I see this thing in myself, how do I approach it? I want to be clear. Sorry if I labour that point. How do I approach it, this...

  • Share This Quote

    ...we go on with what we were talking about the other day, the day before yesterday morning. How difficult it is, we said, to face facts, facts being that which is actually taking place now. The word 'actual', not the potential or the possible but as in French, what is now, what's going on. And for most of us it's very difficult to face that, without...

  • Share This Quote

    So to break from this conditioning - it is the conditioned mind - this idea is from the Greeks - all humanity has done this, never look at facts but draw a conclusion about facts. Our philosophies, your gurus, the whole thing is based on this. And we say why does the mind do this, why is there this instant reaction? Because it is part of our...

  • Share This Quote

    ...of our consciousness with its fear. We are not talking about the various forms of fear - fear of old age, fear of death, fear of loneliness, fear of anxiety, fear which breeds hate, fear of not arriving, not achieving, not fulfilling, not reaching Nirvana, or whatever you want to reach spiritually. We are not talking about the objects of fear but...

  • Share This Quote

    ...has captured, seen that extraordinary movement and it is part of that energy. I want to come much closer to earth, which is I have lived with death, fear of death, fear of not being and so on, and suddenly I see there is no division and I understand this whole thing. So what has happened to my brain? You follow...

  • Share This Quote

    ...what is the cause of fear? Fear of illness, fear of death, fear of a hundred little things. fear inhibits freedom. As long as there is any particle of fear about anything there is no freedom. It is not to be sought in some other place, though the pastures may be greener across the field, but the multiplication of this fear is growing more and more...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Or are you not interested in death? Only old people are interested in death. And one must go into this very carefully, not only to find out whether human beings can be free from the fear of death, but what is implied deeply in ending, which is death - ending. Right? Have you ever ended anything, without motive, without coercion, without pressure,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Everyone, or I can say, almost everyone is frightened of something. It may be the fear of death, fear of loneliness, fear of not being loved, fear of not becoming famous, successful and also fear of not having physical security, and the fear of not having psychological security. There are so many multiple forms of fears. Now to go into this...

  • Share This Quote

    ...are trying to point out is that life is one, the living, love and death are one, they are not three separate things. And when you separate them there is conflict, there is agony, there is pain, there is sorrow and the fear of death. But when life is a whole, non-fragmented, harmonious, total, then to such a mind there is freedom from...

  • Share This Quote

    ...you? Oh, for god's sake, you are frightened, you are frightened human beings, of being alone, frightened of not having psychological security or physiological security, of failure, of having no love, of not being loved, fear of loneliness, despair, not going beyond this everlasting sorrow and strife, and ultimately there is the fear of death.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Oh, you don't know what you are frightened of? Losing a job, not having money - investigate it, sir, look at it - don't say, 'no', right off - fear of death? Not coming up to the ideal which you have set up for yourself? You have measured yourself against another and you feel that you cannot completely fulfil, completely reach that point. Or you...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Yes, yes, of course. So are we all, can we move together in this, know that fear we are concerned with, not with fear of darkness, fear of death, fear of this, fear of that.

  • Share This Quote

    And our life, a great portion of our life unfortunately is based on fear: fear of poverty, fear of not achieving what we want, success - and in this country success is worshipped as a god - fear of physical pain, fear of old age, fear of death, fear of what somebody says about you - you know the innumerable fears that the mind has collected, both conscious as well as unconscious.

  • Share This Quote

    ...up with fear. Has never been able to solve fear. Never. There are various forms of fears; you may have your own particular form of fear: fear of death, fear of gods, fear of your wife, fear of your husband, fear of the politicians, god knows how many fears humanity has, the devil, and so on. What is fear? Not the mere experience of fear in its...

  • Share This Quote

    ...not know if you have not noticed it. And where there is pleasure there must be fear also, and that is our life, our daily life of pursuing pleasure in different forms - politically, religiously, in every way, and also living in the shadow of fear - fear of death, fear of losing a job, fear of a thousand things.

  • Share This Quote

    If this is so for you as well as for the speaker, the importance of being completely free - from fear, from jealousy, anxiety, fear of death, the fear of not being loved, the fear of loneliness, the fear of not becoming successful, famous, achieving, the fear of not being loved, you know, all the fears - if this is the central issue, and it is the only issue in human existence - we are not being dogmatic, because man has sought freedom from the very beginning of time.

  • Share This Quote

    ...no fear. Right? Shall we go into it? Are you interested in it? We are saying that the art of living demands that there should be no fear at all - fear of psychological security, fear of death, fear of not becoming something, fear of losing, gaining - you know the whole problem of fear. Shall we talk about it together? Whether it is possible to...

  • Share This Quote

    ...One is afraid of death. Let's take that as an instance. We are not discussing what death is, whether there is reincarnation or not, we are not discussing that. The fear of death. What is that fear of suddenly coming to an end, suddenly getting detached from your moorings, suddenly getting detached from your family, from all your knowledge, from...

  • Share This Quote

    K: I am going to tell you. (Laughter) Don't be a Hindu, or a Muslim, or belong to any society, any group of people. That's what is happening in the world, sir.

  • Share This Quote

    ...not so much as in the east, decline of social morality and they are now looking for new leaders, politically they want leaders. A leader is a dangerous person in whom the whole society is involved in that one person. And society is so complex. And when we follow a leader, either you know where he is leading to, which he generally doesn't, or you...

  • Share This Quote

    ...talking quickly, slowly at all. I am talking about something. I see this world as it is, and I am born in that society, and as I grow up I realise I am conditioned, and my responsibility is to completely free the mind from conditioning, then only I can do something about society. Till that takes place I won't discuss, talk about changing society,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...this arises rather an interesting question. Society now demands engineers, scientists, businessmen, computer experts, architects, builders of roads, engineers - society demands that. So there lies the money, and all the rest of it. If the society demanded a totally different type of group of people - you are following? - that is, a group of people...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Right? So what am I to do. Are you in that position? What am I to do to break down this wall, which I have built, society has built, and society is my relationship with another, so I have built it, it is my desire, my ambition, my sensations, my will that has built this enormous limited prison. Now what am I to do? I realise whatever positive act...

  • Share This Quote

    K: So you are confirming to a pattern which society has established, and the religious teachers have established it as an abstraction.

  • Share This Quote

    So, having described the state of the world, and the state of the world is produced by man, by you, by the speaker, by each one of us, because society is human relationship, not some abstraction, not something that you have to do something out there, but it is a human relationship that has produced this society, this society which is so mad, so corrupt.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Already built. Either you break it down and build a new one; watch it, sir. And the breaking down of it is by those people who are conditioned, who will create another society which will be similar or perhaps modified, or somewhat tyrannical, or less tyrannical. It'll be the same pattern. And this has been tried. Not just only in this generation,...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Let's talk over that. If you remain in the same society, inward revolution seems terribly difficult, or practically impossible. Shall we discuss that? Really?

  • Share This Quote

    ...Why not? A sane man, you know, an intelligent man, a man who is not angry, jealous, all the rest of it - can't he live in this world? - knowing that this society, whatever society it is, is always in corruption? If he cannot live in this society, you are asking the most impossible question. If he cannot live in this society, whatever the society...

  • Share This Quote

    ...the challenge that the speaker is putting before you. How you respond to it is very important. Morally, every country in the world is immoral. Our society is immoral, our religions are immoral. And we live in that society. We respond to that society. We are part of that society. We are that society. We are not different from that society. Right?...

  • Share This Quote

    So one looks around seriously, wanting to be committed to some kind of action, not for a day or two, or a month, or a year or so, but committed continuously for the rest of one's life: undeviated, not persuaded by demagogues or people who promise you heaven and so on, all that business, but a few, perhaps many even, who are seriously concerned and dedicated, giving one's life to find out what is right action; what is our responsibility to this society which we have created.

  • Share This Quote

    ...what is the problem? The problem apparently is, society can only be changed if human beings who have created it change themselves. That is the real problem, the real core of the problem. Right? Society, which is corrupt, which is immoral, which is ugly, there is injustice, cruelty, the rich and the poor, you follow, all that, the society, which...

  • Share This Quote

    ...activity, so what shall I do? You answer me sirs, answer. Let's talk it over together. What shall I do? I am conditioned, in a culture, in a society which I and my great, great, great, great grandfathers created - what shall I do? Knowing that I am conditioned by the society, the culture, the religion in which I live, which we all together have...

  • Share This Quote

    So, we have created this society, so you are this society. You understand? You are the society. So unless you change radically, you'll never change the society. Communists have tried this, forcing, compelling, secretly, viciously, destroying millions, to force man, his psychology, his being, to submit to various forms of compulsion. You must know...

  • Share This Quote

    ...bus, to go to your office, not tomorrow, Sunday, but Monday, and to go to the office for the rest of your life, day after day, day after day, day after day. This is all the product of thought. I know you have to go one knows one has to go to your office, to a factory, to your business and so on, there thought is necessary. But is thought necessary...

  • Share This Quote

    ...breeds fear. Right? Now, are you doing it? You understand? You have had pain, you have done something in the past which you don't want to be exposed, or you want to fulfil, or do something in the future and you may not be able to, which is all the product of thought and time. Are you doing this? Right? Most of us are, most people are doing this,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...created a fragmentary way of living, saying one thing and doing another. The contradiction that exists in man is the product of thought because thought itself is limited, thought itself cannot see the whole, thought in itself thinks that it can perceive the whole and act. I hope we are sharing this together. It is necessary that we look into this...

  • Share This Quote

    ...thought has created our society. Thought has created all the gods, whether the Christian saviour or Hindus business, all are the product of thought. When you go to your church or to your temple, or do your puja, ring the bell and all that circus, it is essentially the product of thought. There is nothing sacred about it. You are following all...

  • Share This Quote

    ...So wait. There is no both, there is no atman and lower and the higher. That's just another invention of the mind, product of thought. So what you are saying, sir is: can thought give you rest, can thought be quiet for a while? Right? Can thought not function? Right? Because it is thought that has made this mess in the world. You are thinking:...

  • Share This Quote

    Your religions are the product of thought, your behaviour, the conduct, the business life, relationship, the accumulation of armaments, the army, the navy, the airforce, the whole thing, the thing that we call culture, civilisation, is based on thought, whether that thought is reasonable or unreasonable, logical or illogical, sane or neurotic, our action is based on thought - thought as an idea, thought as an ideal, because we are all terribly idealistic, most unfortunately.

  • Share This Quote

    ...to observe one thought so clearly, understand it so fully that other thoughts are included in that one thought. And I say, 'Who is the person who is observing? Is he the product of thought?' And if it is the product of thought it is the past, so the past says, 'I must watch this rapid movement of thought' - the past being inactive, thought which...

  • Share This Quote

    ...and the response of memory is thought. These are facts. You cannot say, well, thought is the ripple of god or the ripple of some invention. If you say it is a ripple of god, it is still the product of thought. So please see how human beings are caught in the product of thought, in the things thought has created, and make it into something super...

  • Share This Quote

    ...these the factors of the basic cause of fear? Time, which is the product of thought - chronological time is not the product of thought; the sun sets, the sun rises and the calendar was invented 4,500 BC - that time exists but is there time at all psychologically, to make an effort to be something? Or, is fear of not being? You understand? What is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...is nothing to do with sacredness. You may worship the things that thought has invented, you may worship your guru and your scriptures - the Bible, the Koran, whatever books you read, so-called religious literature - but they are all the product of thought, not straight from god's mouth, or the horse's mouth. All that is not religion. Right? It is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...For now in our life all our existence is based on thought, that thought may imagine it is not based on it, that it is based on some spiritual - etc. but it is still the product of thought. Our gods, our saviours, our masters, our gurus, are the product of thought. And what place has thought in life, in existence? It has its place logically,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...from that arises: is love pleasure? Is love desire? Is love the product of thought? Or love has nothing whatsoever to do with jealousy, hatred, antagonism, it is not touched by thought at all? And therefore it has no division in itself and therefore it is compassion, passion for all. And in enquiring into that thing which we said can never be put...

  • Share This Quote

    ...religious mind; what is reverence, respect, if there is anything sacred which thought has not invented. That which we worship now is the product of thought, and thought is a material process, so there is nothing whatsoever sacred about thought. Thought, which has created the churches and the content of those churches, temples, mosques, there there...

  • Share This Quote

    ...and so on, so on, so on, there thought is necessary. Psychologically thought has created the reality of the 'me'. Me, my, my house, my property, my wife, my husband, my children, my country, my god - all that is the product of thought. And in that field we have established a relationship with each other which is constantly in conflict. So that is...

  • Share This Quote

    ...this consciousness, in which there is the crisis, and nowhere else, is put together by thought. Our consciousness is, with its content, the product of thought. Which is, thought has accepted the propaganda of two thousand years in the western world, religiously, and in the eastern world thought created an image, certain rituals, as in the west,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Of course. Yes that is what I meant, the whole movement is in a certain way. And along that way I can modify, adjust, polish, a little more, a little less and so on, but if a man is concerned with a very radical change, where is he to begin? As we said the other day we've relied on the environment to change us, society to change us, various forms...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I see what it is, I am greedy. I don't want to transform it into non-greed. I am violent. I don't want to transform it into non-violence. But that violence must undergo a radical change. Now what am I to do with it? You are following all this? What am I to do with it, what is my mind, which has been trained, educated, disciplined to be ambitious,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...They are rather serious, demanding from each one of us considerable exercise of thought, capacity to investigate, to observe. And during this process perhaps bring about a radical change in the human mind. That is what these meetings are meant to be: that we are here to observe what is happening in the world; and also to observe what is happening...

  • Share This Quote

    ...say, man as he is cannot be radically changed. There are those who say change the environment, and man will change, and the others, the so-called religious people - have faith, believe, and attend to all the things that god has said, then perhaps man will bring about a radical change in himself. All these systems have been tried over and over...

  • Share This Quote

    And our chief concern and commitment, if we have been at all serious here, has been the transformation, the radical change of the human mind - the mind which includes the brain, the heart, and the whole organism as a whole, that has created this world around us, the world of corruption, violence, brutality, vanity and all the structure which has, and does, bring about war.

  • Share This Quote

    ...world, they have had many, many revolutions, physical revolutions, they have not changed the psychological quality of human beings. Unless there is fundamental, radical change, society will remain as it is now. And we said yesterday too, change implies time, change from this to that, change from violence to non-violence - which is now used for...

  • Share This Quote

    K: we'd be monkeys, machines! You see, and that faculty to a radical change is attributed to some outside agency and therefore we look to that and get lost in that. If we don't look to anybody and be completely free from all that, that solitude is common to all of us. I don't know if I am making myself clear?

  • Share This Quote

    ...consciousness into a better consciousness, to a more polished consciousness - less violent but occasionally violent, and so on, so on. The ending of the content of consciousness is radical change radical mutation. I won't use the word 'change' there. So, why don't we change? Move away from this totally. Have we made the question clear? Why, after...

  • Share This Quote

    ...life - which is all rot, nonsense. If you can't change it now, you will never change it. Change doesn't need, doesn't require time. Which is, change, radical change can take place, as I said, when there is insight. You understand? I have used the word 'insight' previously, that is, with regard to learning. When you have an insight into the whole...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Sir, let's proceed. What is blocking you, each one of us, from change, radical change? Is it we are always dealing with parts? You understand, sir? Or, taking the whole structure of our psychology and ending it. Not bit by bit by bit, taking one part after another. Is that one of our difficulties?

  • Share This Quote

    Attention is like a fire, when that attention is there that thing which is sorrow, the loneliness, the pain, the anxiety, the tears, when there is that complete attention all that goes, disappears. Attention is a flame.

  • Share This Quote

    ...is a watching of my chattering. I am aware and in that awareness I am not seeking any reward or punishment, I am just watching. Which means what? I am giving complete attention at that moment. Right? At that second all my energy, all my capacity and attention is there. Which means when there is complete attention, complete, not attention brought...

  • Share This Quote

    ...a flame. Right? Attention is like turning on a very, very bright light. And you need that attention, that complete attention in which there is no resistance, not saying, 'I will attend', 'I must learn how to attend' - which means gradualness, therefore you are not attending. Do you see all this? I wonder - one wonders if you are taking the same...

  • Share This Quote

    ...have. That image has been created, has come into being through various incidents, pleasurable, non-pleasurable, and all the rest of it. Now look at that image you have about her or him with complete attention. Then you will see in that attention there is no image at all. So the past image and the image that you might build will disappear when you...

  • Share This Quote

    K: The gentleman would like to discuss, ask, to talk over together, the question of when there is complete attention there is no movement of thought; but thought arises when there is inattention, when there is no attention. So could we go into this question? Any other questions?

  • Share This Quote

    ...What happens? One gives complete attention in one's relationship between man and woman; let's begin with that. You have given complete attention. When she insults you, when she flatters you, when she bullies you or when she is attached to you, all that is the lack of attention. If you give complete attention and the wife doesn't, then what...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Ah, in order oh, yes - mustn't the body be light and sensitive to pay complete attention. Not too many questions, sir because...

  • Share This Quote

    Now, to observe that insult and many other forms of recording with complete attention at the moment it is given. Then you will say how am I, how is the brain to maintain this attention all the time. Right? That's a wrong question. Because you say, I have learnt a trick and I want to continue keeping that trick. That is, pay attention completely to...

  • Share This Quote

    ...to everything that you do. You begin there. How you're dressed, how you talk, how you eat, how you walk - pay attention to all that. Then as you pay attention, you will know what it means to give complete attention. That is, to observe, to watch, to listen, thereby you become highly sensitive - not become - you are highly sensitive when there is...

  • Share This Quote

    K: So in answering this question: what is attention, what is the nature of thought that ceases when there is complete attention, and when there is no attention, thought arises. That is what we are going to talk over together.

  • Share This Quote

    K: The lady says when there is complete attention there is neither the observer nor the observed. Quite right. I mean, I am not saying you are right, I mean if it is so, it is so. And you want to maintain that attention. Right? Now, look: who is the entity that wants to maintain that attention? See what has happened? Do watch it, please watch it....

  • Share This Quote

    K: Have you done it, sirs? Now wait a minute: you and I are quarrelling now, it is a quarrel, I'll show you. Will you give your complete attention? Then what happens? If you, as the husband or the wife, give complete attention what happens to the other person? You don't even come Come on, sirs, what happens?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Look here, madame, you have said several things which point to some other direction, which is, you say when there is complete attention. When you say, 'when' there is complete attention' there is no attention. Right? When I say, 'When I am attentive this will happen', which means I am not attentive now. No?

  • Share This Quote

    ...is no centre. When you concentrate there is a centre. When you are completely attending there is no me, the image, nothing. When, say for instance, you are listening now with complete attention, if you are, what takes place? There is neither agreeing, nor disagreeing, there is such care, such affection, such love, so you are completely listening....

  • Share This Quote

    ...It interferes when there is a remembrance, when there is a knowledge of the past as being hurt and so on. You are following all this? It can only stop when you give complete attention in that relationship. You understand? Just think about it. We are investigating. Don't accept anything what the speaker is saying. We must begin with a great deal of...

  • Share This Quote

    If you understand this deeply, then we can enquire into the nature of pleasure, because we enquired yesterday into the nature and the movement of fear. I do not know whether you have tested it out and are free of fear completely, without a shadow of it - that is real freedom, that is real moksha on earth, to be free completely, entirely from the...

  • Share This Quote

    So we are enquiring into the nature of pleasure. What is pleasure? Go on, sir, think it out - because it is very important, because pleasure and fear go together. When pleasure is denied there is violence which is part of fear. So one must understand the nature of pleasure, not suppress it, control it, deny it, or run away from it, but understand...

  • Share This Quote

    ...pattern, that idea of suppression, escape through identifying with some idol, person, or concept, that hasn't solved the problem. So we have to go together, investigate, think together, what is the nature of pleasure.

  • Share This Quote

    So we are going together to go into the first question this morning: the nature of pleasure. Why human beings throughout the world, and especially in this country, pursue this thing called pleasure. What is pleasure? We are together examining what it is; exploring. And when one explores, there must be a certain quality of doubt. It's part of...

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, we went into that. Which is: what is the nature of pleasure? What is pleasure? It is a constant remembrance of things past which have happened.

  • Share This Quote

    So as we went over the other day the nature and the structure of fear, together again let us observe the nature of pleasure. Why human beings all over the world are condemned to this thing, why human beings everlastingly follow it, in different ways. Right? So what is pleasure? Why sex has become important? In this country volumes and volumes are...

  • Share This Quote

    This evening we are going to talk about several things which is: pleasure, the nature of pleasure, the structure of it. Then what is the whole movement of desire which brings about pleasure and perhaps also fear, and whether there is an ending to sorrow. And what is the relationship between love and sorrow. And perhaps if we have time, we can go...

  • Share This Quote

    ...- pleasure in various forms, pleasure of possessions, pleasure in becoming something, pleasure in all the sensory responses. But to understand the nature of pleasure one must go into the nature and understand what is love. Because when one loves, if that is possible at all, pleasure has quite a different meaning. It may not be necessary at all. So...

  • Share This Quote

    ...seek pleasure. We are not saying it is right or wrong. We are not condemning pleasure, as we are not condemning desire. Desire is part of pleasure. The fulfilment of desire is the nature of pleasure. So we ought to talk over together not only the nature of pleasure but also what is desire. Desire may be the cause of disorder, each one wanting to...

  • Share This Quote

    So we see the nature of pleasure. I can't go more into it, briefly that is enough. Because we have a lot of things to talk over together.

  • Share This Quote

    K: And when we are talking about pleasure I think we think we ought to be clear that we are not condemning pleasure. We are not trying to become puritanical or permissive. We are trying to investigate or examine, explore the whole structure and nature of pleasure, as we did fear.

  • Share This Quote

    ...of fear. Time and thought are the root of pleasure. We want to deny fear, but pursue pleasure. They are two sides of the same coin. You cannot be free from fear if you do not understand the nature of pleasure. When you look at that mountain, though it is a cloudy morning, when you look at these marvellous old trees and the blue sky, it gives you a...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I'm coming to that, sir, I'm coming to that. So as I said, the brain needs security, otherwise you can't function properly. You understand, sir? Like a child given complete security, it's happy, it learns quicker. And when the family is broken up, when the father and mother are quarrelling, the poor child feels lost, gets neurotic, and becomes...

  • Share This Quote

    ...say I like your love. (Laughs) Then you respond instantly. In the same way when you see that thought does not give security at all, whatever its creation is, the object, the person, the idea, whatever it is, in that there is no security, when you see that wholly, then what takes place? You understand my...

  • Share This Quote

    Can the mind, trained, educated, conditioned to accept fear as a way of life from childhood - security of the mother, security of the family, security in a conclusion, in a formula, security in the Government or in the ideological Government and security outwardly and security inwardly - your experience, your beliefs, your opinions, your knowledge, your gods, and all the rest of it.

  • Share This Quote

    ...obvious, isn't it? It must be, it must feel secure, otherwise it can't operate, otherwise it can't function. So the brain demanding security will find it in anything: will find it in neuroticism, in a belief, in a conclusion, in a guru. You are following all this? It demands security, as a child demands security. And so the brain demanding...

  • Share This Quote

    K: It is my security. Just listen. Don't deny, look at it. It is my security. If I had no image of you, my relationship with you would be uncertain. Right?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Its own problems, its own mess, which is not security! Security means to be perfectly safe. Right? Perfectly protected, not disturbed, say, 'I have a job and nothing is going to happen'. No wars, because the moment there is war I am lost.

  • Share This Quote

    So find out if there is security inwardly. There is no security in attachment. Right? Attachment to my wife, to my friend, to my girl, to my man or attachment to an idea, to a concept, to an image. There's no security - right - in those. When you say, I agree with you, there is no security in that, what happens? Before you had not examined this,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...are fear - right? - pain, jealousy - when I am attached to you and you might look at that person I get jealous of you. Right? So I am jealous, I get angry. In all that where is there security? Because you are seeking security through dependence and that very dependence denies your security. Right? See it? Use your brain - don't stop there. So how...

  • Share This Quote

    K: So you identify yourself with the nation, as Indians, because in that there is security. And you identify yourself with a group, hoping thereby to find a security. Or identify yourself with a guru, and so on, so on, so on. So this identification is born out of the desire for security. Right? Would you accept that?

  • Share This Quote

    ...Christian, Buddhist, Hindu and so on. Unless we do this, we are going to destroy each other. It is so obvious that's what is going on. We want security, we must have security, otherwise you and I wouldn't be here. Security, food, clothes and all that. That is denied because each country says, 'I must solve my own problems'. Right? There is no...

  • Share This Quote

    K: That's right. So is there security? In the things that thought has created, if there is no security there, is there a security that is irrevocable, unchangeable? I say one says there is. But to find that out one must move away from the whole time movement time process.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Be insecure. Know you are insecure. Then find out what is security. But if you are always seeking security you don't know whether you are insecure. But first find out for yourself if you are insecure, what it means, physically, inwardly, and so on.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Biologically I need security. Right? I need food, I need clothes, I need shelter, but that is made impossible by my desire to be secure inwardly. Which is, I am a Nationalist, I believe I am a great Englishman, cut out every other You follow? So we divide the world and thereby destroy our own security. You don't see all this.

  • Share This Quote

    JK: That is what is happening. Each one thinks he has to do what he wants to do - fulfil himself. So he is struggling in his separateness to achieve peace, to achieve security, which that security and that peace is totally denied.

  • Share This Quote

    So thought has divided people, and thought cannot give security. Right? Thought can arrange for security; if thought is based on logic, sanity, clarity, if there is compassion, then you can arrange the world where everybody will have food and clothes and shelter. But do you think you will allow it - when you are a Sikh and a Muslim and a Hindu -...

  • Share This Quote

    ...No, sir. I moved the same thing, which is, we live in conflict. Right? Now I'm asking a question related to what previously we talked about, the conflict between me, the duality - I'm asking a question: is it possible to live - if you have ever asked yourself - without conflict? Have you? Between yourself, your wife, between yourself and somebody...

  • Share This Quote

    K: All right. I'm only saying conflict indicates disorder. So, then what? From there, move. Move. You keep on going around in circles. Move.

  • Share This Quote

    So we have accepted as natural, inevitable, conflict. Conflict between each other - man, woman. And one asks, through all this long fifty thousand years of evolution - we are now at the apex of so-called sophisticated human beings - is this natural, is this inevitable that we must live in conflict - right?

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, I think - don't you think, if I may suggest, that where there is conflict then only you are aware of a conflict, of contradiction. That is, one is aware only when there is conflict. Right? And then the next awareness, the next movement is conflict arises out of fragmentation - opposing elements, opposing desires, opposing wishes, opposing...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I must probe into my life. Obviously the first thing is where there is conflict there is no intelligence. Right? If I am in conflict all the time with people, with ideas, with theories, opinions - right? - so is there an end to conflict? Which means is there an end to conflict and other problems so that the brain is free? Right? Are we together in...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Wait. So again look at it, watch it, please watch. Comparison implies conflict and imitation, doesn't it? That's one side of it. No? I am not dull In comparing myself with you I feel I'm dull, therefore I must struggle to be as clever as you are - conflict. And I then imitate what you are. That's implied in that, conflict and imitation. But also I...

  • Share This Quote

    Man has lived in conflict from time immemorial. If you see those caves in France, in certain parts of the world, there is always the battle between the good and the bad, the good against the evil. Right? This has been the history of man - conflict. And we are asking if this conflict in man can end. Then he is a human being, vital, creative - you...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Separateness. That is the real thing. Isolation. Which inevitably breeds conflict. Is that possible? What does it mean? Because the brain is completely There is no conflict. Now wait a minute. Problems may arise - you follow? - but those problems are dealt with immediately - ended. Problem means conflict.

  • Share This Quote

    And intelligence has not so far been able to transcend conflict - right? And we are going this morning, together, to see if it is possible if the brain can be free from conflict, because we have lived with conflict from the time we are born till we die. The constant struggle to be, or to become, to become something, so-called spiritually,...

  • Share This Quote

    So we are concerned, as we have leisure this morning, sitting down together in a beautiful place with a lot of shadow, green trees and the mountains and the cool breeze - I hope it's not too cold - and having leisure we are examining, exploring together the fact whether one can live a life that is really without conflict and therefore with deep care, affection, attention.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Concentration becomes exclusion, resistance. Right? Do you see this? And in that concentration there is a battle. You want to concentrate and your mind goes off, your thought chases something or other, so there is conflict. Whereas if you gave attention - please listen to this - if you were attentive, not at the moment you want to be attentive but...

  • Share This Quote

    ...whole school exists believing that, asserting it, writing all about it, by very, very clever people. And if it cannot possibly be transformed, then we'll perpetually live in conflict, live in contradiction, continue in neuroticism of various kinds. So, is knowledge of one's wife going to transform the conflict that exists between man and...

  • Share This Quote

    ...You don't know, then why don't you start from there? I don't know how to end conflict. Right? I live in conflict, contradiction, all the rest of it - we won't go into all the details of it - I live in conflict, I'm enquiring into that because I don't know what's going to happen. Wait a bit madam. You understand sir? . I'm enquiring into conflict,...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Would people be in conflict with the present structure of society? If I am peaceful would I be in conflict with the structure of society? And what do I mean by 'conflict with the structure'? Go on, investigate sir, don't wait for me to do it.

  • Share This Quote

    Sir, let's come back. Would you, do you see the fact, if I may ask, that where there is division between my wife and myself there must be conflict? Right, sir? Now how will you get over that conflict?

  • Share This Quote

    ...has had experiences of various types of houses and halls, and so on. So with that knowledge he builds houses. There, knowledge is necessary, obviously. But psychological knowledge - you follow? - the knowledge that I want this, that I have experienced this, I believe this, this is my opinion, all that, the psychological residue of one's...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Yes. You mean I am so stupid that I don't see that this knowledge has very little significance essentially, psychological knowledge, and yet my mind clings to it?

  • Share This Quote

    ...be freedom? And is freedom from the known - you understand when we use the word 'known', all the psychological knowledge that one has acquired, all the various forms of emotional, intellectual gatherings which have become our knowledge, stored up in the brain, and as long as our action is limited to that, can there ever be freedom? I don't know if...

  • Share This Quote

    So we are asking a very serious question, which is, is knowledge making us - psychological knowledge, not the outward knowledge - is the psychological knowledge making us more and more mechanical, therefore more and more limiting the capacity of the brain? The brain has an extraordinary capacity, infinite capacity, but we have reduced it to a very...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Sir, knowledge is necessary at a certain level, and I am questioning very deeply whether knowledge, psychological knowledge is necessary at all. Psychological knowledge - you understand what it is implying? The self is the essence of knowledge, which is accumulated through various experiences, incidents, and so on. All that is knowledge,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...on. There you need knowledge. One needs knowledge to talk in English, or whatever language one has. We are not talking of such knowledge. We are talking about the psychological knowledge which we have gathered. Can the brain ever be free of that? If it is not, we are always living in a very, very, very narrow circle. Our actions will invariably be...

  • Share This Quote

    So, we are saying psychological knowledge, which we will go into much more deeply later on, is totally unnecessary because that is what is making the conflict, that is the structure of the 'me' the 'I' the ego; that invents a superego, superconsciousness which is to be brought down and all that game you play. But this accumulation of psychic,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...knowledge, but both are based on knowledge. So we are saying that knowledge has a definite place in the world of daily activity, but psychological knowledge, that is, the knowledge that you have about your wife, and you have about your husband, that knowledge is divisive, that knowledge prevents love. You can see this simply. You have an image...

  • Share This Quote

    So we are saying, asking whether knowledge can come to an end, not the scientific knowledge, not the knowledge of driving a car, speaking a language, writing a letter, all the technological, physical knowledge, we are not talking about that, that must go on, that is inevitable, but we are talking about the psychological knowledge which always overcomes, distorts the technological knowledge.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Yes sir, I think it can, it does. That is, have no psychological knowledge at all, knowledge is accumulation, and so on and so on.

  • Share This Quote

    K: No. We have said knowledge at a certain level is essential, there you can add and take away and keep on changing, moving - there. But I am questioning whether psychological knowledge is not in itself a factor of the shrinking of the brain.

  • Share This Quote

    ...meeting, it would be absurd. So knowledge has a place. But knowledge, psychological knowledge, which is the 'me', which thought has put together, the self, and the self-centred activity different from, in the relationship with another, and that brings about conflict, confusion, misery.

  • Share This Quote

    2nd Question: Why is knowledge as you said always incomplete? When one is observing is one aware that one is observing, or only aware of the thing being observed? Does awareness lead to analysis? What is psychological knowledge?

  • Share This Quote

    ...important. If you are an administrator for government, knowledge is necessary. But psychological knowledge, the knowledge that you have accumulated about your hurts, about your vanity, your arrogance, your ambition - all that knowledge is you. And with that knowledge we try to find out if there is anything most holy. You can never find out through...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I am going to do, whom I am going to meet, a business talk, and my mind is all the time living in that area. I come home, there is a wife and children, sex and all that, that also becomes a psychological knowledge from which I am acting. So there is the knowledge of my business and contacts and all that, and also there is the knowledge with regard...

  • Share This Quote

    ...the sun we would all be gone. So it is the unifying factor. So thought having created that centre, and the centre feeling itself totally independent of thought, then thought becomes something outside, therefore it is fragmentary, therefore it is broken up - it is not the centre. As thought created the tent and the tent is independent of thought,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...he is separate from thought. That is all what we are discussing. Is there a thinker if there is no thought? Obviously not. So just see the importance of this: thought creates the tent and the tent is independent of thought. The mountain is not created by thought and yet it is independent. But thought created the thinker and the thinker says, I am...

  • Share This Quote

    ...hope that it will be the unifying factor. Because in a unifying factor there is a vitality, there is strength, there is stability. Right? So thought has created that, and that has become independent of thought. I don't know if you have noticed this. Having created that centre, that centre then feels itself independent of thought, and that centre...

  • Share This Quote

    ...This is so Look at it. I am not trying to persuade you to anything, or influence you to any kind of thought or conclusion. The obvious thing is, thought has created this tent, the tent is independent of thought. Right? Thought has created the thinker, and the thinker says, 'By Jove, I am independent, I am original. I am the soul, I am god', 'I am...

  • Share This Quote

    ...The question is, I see I am conditioned and yet thought is independent of that conditioning. We have been through that. We said thought has created the conditioning, and the conditioning says, 'I am independent of thought'. Thought has created the tent, and the tent is independent of thought. The mountain is independent of thought, but thought has...

  • Share This Quote

    ...do I perceive the whole of me - the 'me' constructed by thought, isolated by thought, fragmented by thought which in itself is fragmented? So it creates the 'me' and thinks that 'me' is independent of thought. The 'me' thinks it is independent of thought but it has created the 'me' - the 'me' with all its anxieties, fears, vanities, agonies,...

  • Share This Quote

    K: So the thinker thinks he is independent of thought. But thought has put him together. Please go slowly, you will see something extraordinary taking place in you, if you observe it in yourself.

  • Share This Quote

    ...a minute. All right. Thought has created the microphone, but the microphone is independent of thought, of the thought which has created it. Right? Please follow this. The mountain is not created by thought, it is independent of thought. Fear is put together by thought. Is that thought independent of fear? No, wait! Listen carefully. This is...

  • Share This Quote

    First of all, does it have a life of its own, independent of thought? Or has thought put it together and that self thinks it is independent of thought? You understand the question? Do we understand the question? Thought, we said, is the movement of time. Thought, in the world of reality, thought separates itself from that which it has put...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Coming, yes. So from there conflict: I say, what is the source of this conflict. The source is fragmentation, obviously. Now, what brings about fragmentation? What is the cause of this, behind it? We said, perhaps knowledge.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Of course not, of course not, that becomes romantic and all that business. So the man who hates, the source of it, the cause of it, the movement of it, having an insight and ending it, has the other.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Yes, of course. That's it, that's it. We are getting a little more clear. That is if we say the source from which we all began, therefore it is finished.

  • Share This Quote

    K: I am hesitant to talk about this, a little bit. Could one say when one really comes to that state, that is the source of all energy?

  • Share This Quote

    ...I know. I'm just using that 'put away', that. 'I' can't put it away. It takes place. Then what is the source? Can it ever be named? Say for instance the Jewish religious feeling is that it is not nameable: you don't name it, you can't talk about it, you can't touch it. You can only look. And the Hindus and others say the same thing in different...

  • Share This Quote

    Krishnamurti: After all they are all the Semitic type, and all the rest of it. There it is. We see this. Now I want to get at this: what is the source? Can thought find it? And thought is born from that source; and intelligence is also born from that source. It is like two streams moving in different directions.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Wait a minute, sir. Let's see if we can see, what is that source? They generally attribute it to some philosophical concept, or they say that source is god - I am just using that word for the moment - or Jehovah or Brahman, it doesn't matter. That source is the common, is the central movement which divides itself into matter and intelligence. But...

  • Share This Quote

    ...denied, or put aside in its totality, in its wholeness. What I am trying to get at is this, sir: I want to find out, as a human being living in this world with all the chaos and suffering, and all the rest of it, can the human mind touch that source in which the two divisions don't exist? And because it has touched this source, because it has no...

  • Share This Quote

    ...to these, therefore we will then be able to look at the problem entirely differently. And there is an immense problem, because man, that's a human being, has lost - if he ever had - has lost the source, the fountain, the depth, the vitality of living anew. He has become a lonely human being, frightened, anxious, caught in despair, discontent,...

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, I didn't say 'become'. That's the difference. I did not say 'become', I said 'be', which is entirely different. You understand the two? Becoming is ambitious

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, if there is no idea of oneself, is there oneself? Don't let's enter into this. I want to stick to one thing at a time, which is: what is the difference, is there a difference between knowledge and learning?

  • Share This Quote

    K: That is awareness. Now what is the difference - I am not categorising, please I am not being impudent, or inquisitive, or insulting - what is the difference between that sense of awareness and attention?

  • Share This Quote

    K: What is the difference between your talks and explanations? I can't - let me think for a minute. Am I explaining? Wait a minute. The question is: what is the difference between your talks and the innumerable explanations that are dished out? What do you think is the difference? Is there any difference?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Sir, wait. I have no preoccupation now. All that I am concerned with now is to find out if there is a difference between knowledge and learning. That is not a pre-occupation, I want to find out.

  • Share This Quote

    ...just listen, don't agree or disagree, just find out - I am asking you, or you are asking yourself, do you know you are conditioned? Or somebody is telling you you are conditioned - you see the difference? I wonder if you see the difference. Do you see the difference? Is it your own discovery, or somebody has discovered this and tells you about it,...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Wait, wait. Go into it sir, examine it. Is there any difference or it's the same verbal verbiage going on repeating, explaining? Is there any difference? What do you think? What do you think? Come on sirs.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Wait a minute. What do you say? Do you see a difference? Careful. Do you see the difference between accumulation, acquiring, acquiring, acquiring - right? - and, not acquiring, which is the movement of learning, more and more, learning. There was a very famous painter, I believe - not I believe - Goya, Spanish. He said when he was ninety, or...

  • Share This Quote

    What's the difference between a man who wants to accumulate money, working, working, working, getting richer and richer or poorer, whatever it is - working day after day to be rich, famous, as a politician, as guru or something or other - what's the difference between that and your practising daily to become something, to achieve enlightenment?

  • Share This Quote

    ...I want to learn about myself. What do I mean by that word 'to learn'? Is there a difference between knowing myself and learning about myself? You understand? I'm sorry to be - this is not splitting hair - I just I want to learn, I want to find out the meaning of words - you understand, sir? - otherwise we'll talk two different things. So when I...

  • Share This Quote

    K: As memory. And you use that, to get a job, to pass, and so on, you use that. When you learn how to write, you are doing the same thing, which is, it becomes almost automatic - right? But driving, you can't do quite automatically. See the difference.

  • Share This Quote

    First Question: How do we tell the difference between observing ourselves in the sense you mean, and merely thinking about ourselves?

  • Share This Quote

    ...we are asking, how do you observe all this? Do you observe it as something outside of you, or part of you? You understand the difference? If it is outside of you then you have to do something about it. Right? Conquer it, suppress it, run away from it, explain it, analyse it and so on, which is all conflict, isn't it? But if there is no division...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Yes. So I am just questioning what we mean by experience. I can experience anger. Is there a difference between the experience and the experiencer?

  • Share This Quote

    ...frightened. And having no fear I have no beliefs, whether the entity lives or doesn't live after dying. This is a tremendous I am going into it. The 'me', who is so afraid of death, the 'me' is the known. The 'me' is the known when it is attached to the furniture, to the house, to the family, to the name, to the country, the 'me' is the known. And...

  • Share This Quote

    ...in our life that is common. And we have never gone into it. We are frightened of it. Fear is time. Fear is the product of thought. And being afraid of death, we have put it far away, something to be avoided. And if you are afraid of death, then seeking comfort in afterlife,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...please! What am I afraid of, each one of us? My wife, losing my job, having no status in society, nobody recognising me as a great man? Afraid of death, afraid of darkness, afraid that I might physically get hurt? Go on, sir, please, what is it you're afraid...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Wait. Whatever the fear be - daily life of fear, losing money, afraid of your husband, wife, afraid of losing your job, afraid of darkness, afraid what people - afraid - afraid of death, afraid of not becoming famous, fulfilling, wanting to be recognised - you know, fears. Can't you? Need you go back and say, 'Well, I have no fear now, but when I...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I am frightened of that too. You are following all this? And of course I am afraid of death, and I am afraid of being lonely, not being loved and so I want to establish a relationship with another in which this fear doesn't exist, this anxiety, this sense of loneliness, this separation. And also I am afraid of the dark, the lift, and the...

  • Share This Quote

    ...the root of fear is time-thought. If you understand that - see the beauty of it, the subtlety of it. And the other thing is: people are afraid, as you are, most human beings throughout the world are afraid of death. That's one of the fundamental fears of life. And we all know death is for everybody, for you and the speaker. That's an absolute...

  • Share This Quote

    ...What is fear? You are afraid; aren't you? At least be honest to yourself. You are afraid, aren't you - afraid of losing your job; afraid of death; afraid of not reaching god or whatever it is, afraid of not doing the right thing; afraid of not being respectable. Right? So you have many, many forms of fear, which is the fear that you...

  • Share This Quote

    You know we are so afraid of death. We have never enquired into a mind that has not only not fear, which we talked about the other day, but also what is death. Right? You see our mind clings to a continuity. Right? In continuity there is security: I was, I am, I will be. That concept, that idea, gives tremendous strength. Right? I feel secure,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...understood deeply what the deep significance of death is. We can only understand it when there is no fear. Right? But most of us - I am sorry about my voice, it will get better as we go along - most of us are afraid of death. And we separate living from death - our daily life from death. One thing is absolutely certain, which is that we are all...

  • Share This Quote

    ...little backyard of a country. So there are innumerable forms of fear. Right? People are afraid of the dark, people are afraid of public opinion, people are afraid of death - we will deal with death later - people are afraid of not fulfilling, whatever that may mean. Apart from the fear of disease, one may have a great deal of pain, physical pain;...

  • Share This Quote

    One is afraid of death - I won't go into the question of death because that is a very complex thing, we will go into it. We are asking what is the relationship between these two. Fear is time. Right? I'll have to explain it. Gosh, must one explain everything, can't we jump into it?

  • Share This Quote

    ...is afraid of a physical pain that one has had last week, and one hopes it will not recur again, and in that there is fear. One is afraid of death, that everlasting thing that is waiting for all of us. One is afraid of one's wife or husband, or girl or boy - there are so many fears. And if you invite one as you are sitting there, what is the cause...

  • Share This Quote

    ...it is not a practice. You see, you are so afraid of doing anything which might become a practice. I am not saying - sir, aren't you afraid of losing your job? Aren't you afraid of death? Aren't you afraid of not being able to fulfil? Aren't you afraid of being lonely? Aren't you afraid of not being loved? Aren't you? Some form of fear? What your...

  • Share This Quote

    ...it's obvious. You are afraid - losing a job, afraid of death, afraid of public opinion, afraid of old age, afraid of not being somebody, afraid that you will be punished, afraid that you will never get your reward, afraid of darkness, afraid of your wife or husband, afraid of your guru, afraid of the gods - multiplication of fears. Right? Now can...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Am I working, the speaker working or you are also working? That means we are learning together. You know to learn together for an hour, that is to give all your attention, your heart, your body, your nerves for an hour, you know what it means? It means that your brain and your mind can't stand more. The speaker can go on because it's his life. So...

  • Share This Quote

    Now we have talked for an hour and what good has it done? (Laughs) Not that one is seeking a result - I am not, the speaker is not. I don't care if you do, or don't. It is up to you. So after listening for an hour perhaps to this harangue, or to this sermon - you know that story of a preacher talking to his disciples every morning, that was his...

  • Share This Quote

    Shall we go on with it? Can you bear an hour and a quarter, an hour and a half of this? (Laughs) Or shall we go on till next

  • Share This Quote

    So, this is what we were saying yesterday - it took an hour and a quarter - we are trying to make a rsum of it in a few minutes.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Which is, thinking about a person is still limited. It's too complex, we won't go into all this. Now, we have talked for an hour and a quarter. Isn't that enough? Right? I think that's enough for this morning, don't you? Don't be nervous.

  • Share This Quote

    This is the last talk, but there will be discussions beginning on Sunday morning. And I hope you can stand this heat, at least for an hour and twenty minutes or so.

  • Share This Quote

    We have spent an hour and a quarter nearly, discussing verbally what is mediation, what is love. We haven't come to anything.

  • Share This Quote

    K: The gentleman wants to know if I am leaving already. I have talked for an hour and five minutes. If you want to sit down, sir, sit down quietly, or go home. I don't care.

  • Share This Quote

    So we are thinking together over this, and we shall go into it tomorrow, because you can't stand more than an hour of this kind of talk. May I get up and go now?

  • Share This Quote

    So we'll stop today, if you don't mind, because we've talked for an hour, and to listen for an hour about serious things is quite difficult - probably you're not used to this kind of thing. I can go on but not you. So if you don't mind, we'll stop and meet again tomorrow morning.

  • Share This Quote

    ...of our consciousness, and therefore our action in our daily life. That is what we are primarily concerned with. And if one is at all serious please give your attention to this for at least an hour this morning - at least for an hour.

  • Share This Quote

    ...we better stop. We'll go into it - sorry, this is too I have talked for an hour and a quarter, an hour and twenty minutes, that is enough, you can't take more. If you don't mind I'll stop there and we will continue on Sunday. Because this is really very important, which is: where there is a cause it must be mechanical. I hope you see this. Where...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Twenty five after twelve? Une heure pas! We have talked for nearly half an hour? Or one hour? I am sorry. There is so much to do. You are not tired?

  • Share This Quote

    ...time is it? It is twelve o'clock. Probably most of you will be glad it is twelve o'clock, but let's go I'll go on a little while and then we will stop because you can't stand more than an hour of this kind of talk. Because if you are working as the speaker is working, for you, your brains will not stand more than an hour. But if you are not...

  • Share This Quote

    K: That's what we have spent, an hour and a quarter on ideas. We haven't faced the fact, which is my fear of getting hurt. And Mrs Simmons says, learn about it as you live. Right? Learn what fear is, go into it, daily, as it happens, and learn all about it. Right? And at the end it is finished. But I am saying quite the contrary. Forgive me. Which...

  • Share This Quote

    ...you answer it seriously and honestly? Not one moment I want this, next moment I want that and third moment, third year something else, you know, as that is happening in this country. One thing after the other. A new latest guru comes and you all... So what is it, when you sit down quietly as you are doing now, what is it we all want? Is there a...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Understanding what is happening at the moment. Now at the moment, this is the moment, not at the moment there. This is the moment. What have you understood at this moment, how to act, or what is action when there is order, when there is the cessation of disorder and therefore order, and therefore a sense of great intelligence in operation? So I...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Listen. I look at myself, myself is constantly moving, it isn't static. Right? Have you noticed it? One moment it is peaceful, the next moment it is angry, the third moment it is pursuing some pleasure, it is constantly in action, movement. And I have learnt by looking at myself something about it. Right? That becomes an experience, that becomes...

  • Share This Quote

    So is it possible to observe myself each moment as though as it was fresh? Not having remembered my observation and let that remembrance operate. Do you see the difference? To let the remembrance operate, or observe from moment to moment, afresh each response, see what it does to you. Then that response becomes extraordinarily important because it...

  • Share This Quote

    K: The observer, he says, establishes 'what should be'. Why does this go on? You understand? At the moment I see a sunset, very beautiful, there is no sense of remembering. A moment later I want to remember it, store it up, and tomorrow I want to repeat it, I want to have the same experience. Why does this take place?

  • Share This Quote

    ...the sensation, then desire to possess it or to avoid it. You see a sunset: at the moment of that light and the glory and the colours and the extraordinary sense of beauty shrouding the world, at that moment there is neither thought nor you, but that extraordinary thing in front of you. Then thought comes along and says, 'How lovely that is. How...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Maybe we can pay attention every moment as far as our energy allows. You see, that is just an idea - I am not interested, please, sir.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Wait, you'll find out. You don't have to ask me, you'll find out. The moment you are conscious that you are happy, is happiness there? The moment you say, 'My god how joyous I am' - can you ever say that? If you say it has already moved away from you.

  • Share This Quote

    So at that moment, which is at the moment when you are being called a fool, or whatever you are, at that moment to be attentive. You understand? Attention implies, as we said the other day, there are three types of Which is concentration, awareness and attention. Concentration implies focussing with your whole energy on a certain point - right? -...

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, no, no. I don't accept that. Why do you say that? The moment it comes into being it is already formed in that. It is already caught in knowledge.

  • Share This Quote

    ...at it, live with it, understand it completely? Which means, can it look at it without any sense of fear. The moment there is fear you have choice, the moment you have fear there is will, there is resistance, and there is a wastage of energy. The ending of energy as the 'me' is the incapacity to look at...

  • Share This Quote

    Now what is implied in that? The moment of happening in which there is no 'I', a second later the 'I' comes in and says, 'How lovely that was and I must have more of it.' And the pursuit of it. Now, what is that, this movement?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Now just a minute. What takes place when I meet that spider or that man, or that woman? I am terrified at that moment. At that moment I am paralysed right through. Right, sir? Why am I paralysed? What has made me paralysed?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Then, lady, you have solved the problem. (Laughter) Have you done this ever, if you are honest? That is, I and my wife quarrel, at the moment of the quarrelling not to allow time to interfere. Which means you give all your attention at that moment to the quarrel. What happens? Oh, do it, sir, for god's sake, do it!

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, sir. Certainly not. It is like saying, when you are aware of danger can you at the moment not be aware of it at all. You are walking down the street and you are aware at one moment the bus is dangerous and the next moment you are not aware of it and you will be killed.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Or at home. And at home it is pretty, you know, a routine, sex, children - if I have children, if I want children, and the constant battle, battle, battle all my life. Insulted, wounded, hurt, everything is going on in me and around me.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Is it that we are afraid to discuss this question of relationship? For you it is very easy, because you are not involved for the moment. But if you get married, have children, then it will become a problem. So for you it is no problem so you could say, I am not afraid of it. But having married, having children, the whole business, somebody comes...

  • Share This Quote

    First of all, what is our relationship to our children? Please bear in mind that we are going to investigate together. What is our relationship to our children? You go off to the office if you are a man, and come back late in the evening. If you are the mother you have your own ambitions, your own drives, your own loneliness, your own miseries,...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Sir, if we have children, what is their future? War? And how am I, if one is a parent, how is he to see all this? How is one to awaken, to be aware of all this going on, and their relationship to what is going on - and if they don't change this thing will go on endlessly.

  • Share This Quote

    ...all this implies the educator needs education. The parents need education, not just the children. And if the parents love their children - love, not hold them as toys and you know, all that kind of stuff, if they really loved them would they allow their children to be killed, or to kill? You understand sirs? Governments demand - perhaps not in...

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, sir. I am thinking all day long about my problems, my wife, my children, my career, my research, I am at it all day long, and when I go to sleep it is there again going on, all day and all night, ceaselessly. And it is wearing itself out. Now I am just asking can all that movement stop? Stop, not stop for some days, or some hours, stop.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Why should I be hurt? Why should another hurt me? Why should my wife hurt me? Or my children, or my boss, or anybody, it doesn't matter who it is, why should they hurt me?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Therefore, sir, can we educate children, students, to live totally differently? Live and understand and act with this sense of understanding the content and the beauty of it all.

  • Share This Quote

    So what is a parent to do and what are the children, the students, what are they to do? You understand the question? What are we to do? You have no answer, have you? There are parents who encourage their children to take drugs. Think of the horror of it.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Sir, put it: you have children - forgive me if I come back to you - you have children. Have you any relationship with them? No, in the real sense of that word.

  • Share This Quote

    I am glad there are some children here. It is so nice to see children, isn't it? It is beautiful to see children. And unfortunately through education, through the corrupted moral society they are dragged into it, willy nilly through their education, through their social economic environment, they are destroyed. Probably the parents know all this....

  • Share This Quote

    K: Good. You are only concerned about yourself. As long as you get a job, you hope to be secure, enough money, married, children and a house. And that's all you are concerned about, aren't you? Be honest.

  • Share This Quote

    K: Madame, if you read the newspapers and magazines, and social workers and all those, they are saying, after a great deal of attention, after a great deal of study, that unless parents really love their children, you know, really love them, have time with them, spend their energy with them, the children either generally die, the babies, or mentally psychologically they are warped.

  • Share This Quote

    ...anybody relieve you of your unrighteous behaviour or you yourself have to transform your behaviour? Do look at it, sirs. It means that you, grown-up people, grown-up men behaving like children and not capable of standing alone. You are educated, you have read books, you have children, families and you depend on somebody to tell you what to do....

  • Share This Quote

    What would you do sirs if you had children of your own? After all the students are your children. What will you do, actually?

  • Share This Quote

    ...we can pick it up, and go also tomorrow into the question of what is meditation. Because all these things, like power, the demand for power, the hurts, fear, pleasure, the attachments, love, and so on, death and sorrow, are part of this whole process of meditation. You cannot possibly meditate if you have not laid the foundation. You understand?...

  • Share This Quote

    Now if a few of us see this together, and it is not mine or yours, but it is so, then we create a new generation. You understand? And then you won't be bothered about changing the people, changing the heart of the people in power. They are not worth changing. Any man who is in power is corrupt.

  • Share This Quote

    ...are incapable of coming together and resolving this problem. That is, thinking together. Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats, in this country, will drop their particular line of thinking, or their personal ambitions, their craving for power, position. Because it is only when we all work together, think together, feel together the necessity,...

  • Share This Quote

    ...so on? Of course. Where there is authority, there is dictatorship. And to bring about a social, religious, a human change, there must be first understanding of this whole structure of thought as the 'me' which is seeking power, whether it is me or the other who is seeking power. Can the mind live without seeking power? Go on, answer this...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Desire in itself, per se. Isn't it one of the major causes of conflict? I desire to be powerful - power. We all want power, from the president down to the prime minister to each one of us, we all want power - power in our little yard. And the desire for power is one of the causes of conflict. Another cause is, I seek power, I want power more than...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Is it natural to seek power? Of course it is so-called natural, so is the dog seeking power over other dogs. It is all right there, poor thing it doesn't know, probably doesn't know much better. But we are supposed to be cultured, educated, intelligent. And we apparently, after these millennia, have not learnt to live without power.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Yes. Not only that it gives one power, position, status and so on, but also it's very satisfying to have power, power over somebody. The whole tyrannical, political world, the totalitarian states are tremendously powerful. Look at Poland - you know all the rest The few are in power, it's like good old - you know, sir, the good old system of...

  • Share This Quote

    2nd Question: Why do we confuse function with role? For instance, we may teach or do some work, but why do we make personal these functions, claiming them as attributes of ourselves, thereby introducing will, position, power, and consequently tremendous harm?

  • Share This Quote

    ...speaker. But if you are concerned, as every human being is concerned, at all awake to all the things that are happening in the world - the tyranny, the search for power, accepting power, living with power; all power is evil, ugly, whether the power over your wife, or the wife over the husband, or the governments throughout the world. Where there...

  • Share This Quote

    Now we will explain what thinking is, but the explanation is not the actual awareness of how thought arises in yourself. I can the speaker can go into it, describe it, explain it, but that explanation is not your own understanding of the origin of thinking. If that is clear, that the description is not your actual discovery, but through...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Have you - no, I am not being personal. Have you, when you have given an explanation why human beings can't move away from this pattern, or break through it, you give me some explanation.

  • Share This Quote

    ...you want to see the video? Are you actually listening to what the speaker is saying? Listening not only with the ear, but listening beyond the word, grasping the significance instantly, not demanding explanation after explanation, description after description. Do we listen at all? Or we are always interpreting what is being said to suit our own...

  • Share This Quote

    ...I will show it to you, sir. See how complicated it is becoming? First of all let's be clear that the word, the description, the explanation, is not the thing. Right? Just go slowly. The word 'tent' is not the tent. I can describe the tent, I can describe the various colours, but the colours, the tent are not the words, are not the description....

  • Share This Quote

    ...and war. Do please see this, you know, with your heart. Look at the war that is going on in the Middle East, Near East. So you know all this; and there are volumes written explaining it all, and we are caught by the explanation. As though any explanation, it doesn't matter which explanation, written by the cleverest man, is ever going to solve...

  • Share This Quote

    ...this evening, let us be serious, honest. That is, the word is not the thing, the explanation is not the actual, the description of a mountain, however beautiful, writing a great poem about a mountain in the blue sky and the lovely shadows, all those descriptions and the painting is not the actual mountain. But most of us are satisfied with the...

  • Share This Quote

    As we were saying, it is an important question to understand, not to avoid it, not to be caught in some explanation or some comforting belief but to really come to grips with it, to really understand the truth of it. Because if we do understand what it means we may be free from the fear of dying.

  • Share This Quote

    K: The questioner says, asks, what is love and how is it possible, how can one have this whole mind? Right? First of all, we must clearly understand the explanation is not the explained, what is described is not - the description is not the described. Right? Have you understood that?

  • Share This Quote

    But you come along and say, 'Look, that wall can be dissolved, broken down, if you have that quality of love with intelligence.' And I say, 'Excellent, but I don't know what it is.' What shall I do? I can't do anything, I realise that. Whatever I do is still within this side of the wall. Right?

  • Share This Quote

    All right. From there we said, that is the wall I have to break down. We are approaching it differently. That is the wall I have to break down - not 'I' - that is the wall that has to be broken down. And we said that wall can be broken down through love and intelligence. Aren't we asking something enormously difficult?

  • Share This Quote

    K: I am behind, this side of the wall, and you are asking me to have that love and intelligence which will destroy the wall. But I don't know what that love is, what that intelligence is, because I am caught in this, this side of the wall. And I realise logically, sanely as you pointed out just now, as an ordinary human being, I realise what you...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Sir, sir. There is a wall between Pakistan and India. There is a wall between the Arab and the Jew, there is a wall between the British and the French and the Italians, there is a wall between... and you are the Italian, the French, the German, the Hindu, the etc. Remove the wall and you will see what happens.

  • Share This Quote

    ...forms of being hurt. We have shed tears quietly or openly and out of that hurt we want to hurt others, which is a form of violence. And being hurt we resist, we build a wall around ourselves never to be hurt again. And when you build a wall around yourself in order not to be hurt you are going to be hurt much more. I do not know if you have not...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Jove, I must be hereafter very careful not to meet that man again' - or the spider, or whatever it is. So I have built a wall against you, hoping thereby to get rid of my terror, but it is there, I am always watching, in spite of the wall. So I see the wall does not prevent or free the mind from terror. So the ending is important, the ending of...

  • Share This Quote

    ...without imitation? And therefore never get hurt in that way. And one is hurt because one has built an image about oneself. The image which one has built about oneself is a form of resistance, a wall between you and me. And when you touch that wall at its tender point I get hurt. So not to compare in education, not to have an image about oneself....

  • Share This Quote

    ...it covers the whole, it's not the particular or general - it is that, it's light, it's not particular light. All right. Then if that is the factor that'll break down the wall which is in front of me, then I don't know that love. As a human being, having reached a certain point, I can't go beyond it to find that love - what shall I do? What is -...

  • Share This Quote

    K: That means you have come to a stop. It is an impasse, you have come against a wall. Wall. You understand? Don't misunderstand wall. You are stuck there.

  • Share This Quote

    ...Oh, you still want privacy. Who is preventing you? I don't understand the question. If you say, I still want privacy, you mean you still want to be enclosed by a house, by a garden, by a wall round your house, or enclosed so as not to be hurt. So you say, I must have a wall around myself in order not to be hurt? (Laughs) We went into this question...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Wait! Look sir, I used to be frightened of you, terrified. And I increase that fear, terror, by building a wall. I don't build a wall anymore. Which is, I built the wall in order to protect myself against you. Now I don't protect myself, what takes place?

  • Share This Quote

    ...its knowledge, with all its illusions and so on. One tries to identify with something else, which is the same. I mean a serious man has done all this and comes back to the fundamental question: what will make this wall totally disappear? I think, sir, it is only possible when I can give my total attention to what you are saying. There is no other...

  • Share This Quote

    ...No, sir, just a minute. I see what human beings have done, which is move from the biological to the psychological, and there they have invented this idea that eventually you will come to godhead, or evolution, enlightenment, reach Brahman, reach whatever it is, nirvana or paradise, or hell. If when a human being sees the falseness of it, actually...

  • Share This Quote

    ...mirror. That's what you are. And also inwardly you are all the struggle, the pain, the conflict, the misery, the confusion. That's what you are actually. That is the state of all human beings. So, your consciousness is not yours, it is the common ground on which all human beings stand and share. If that is clearly - the truth of this is clearly...

  • Share This Quote

    K: Technologically some human begins are progressing or moving forward, and as human beings we are just what we were ten thousand years ago. Full stop. That's all I am saying. So, as a human being, not as a technician, as a human being I see what envy, comparison has done in my life. I am comparing myself with your passion, I am envious of you, I...

  • Share This Quote

    We have been talking, and I hope sharing together, many of the things which concern human beings. And I think this morning we ought to talk over together sorrow, love and death. These are the problems or issues which concern most of us, whether we are young, middle aged, or old. We will go into it, sharing together, what it means - suffering, and...

  • Share This Quote

    K: So, we said that's why human beings have accumulated, not realising its consequences. And realising that, is it possible not to accumulate?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Why? If you were concerned, as one must be, if one is concerned with humanity, with human beings, with all the things that are going on, what would be the right action that would move him out of one direction to another? Is this question valid, has any significance?

  • Share This Quote

    K: Why? That's been gone into too, sir. Why is it similar? Because we human beings, who have lived for a million years, have not resolved this problem.

  • Share This Quote

    K: All human beings are violent. Right. I say, yes. It is not a generalization but observed. Observe yourself; aren't you violent? Don't you get angry? Don't you want position, competition? Don't you support your India against Pakistan? Isn't that violence? And this is happening the world over. Therefore I am saying human beings for thousands of...

  • Share This Quote

    ...wasting our life? The wastage is conflict. The conflict in which we live perpetually from the moment we are born till we die. That is a fact. And human beings have never been able to solve their problem. Which is a very complex affair, whether human beings throughout the world, including all of us here, can ever be free from every kind of...

  • Share This Quote

    K: No, don't answer it. Find out why you as a human being, living on this earth, which is meant for all human beings to live happily, why haven't you compassion? You - not somebody else.

  • Share This Quote

    ...out very respectfully, you are not facing the tremendous issue that is facing man. So, together - I mean together - not you think one way, I think another, together as human beings confronted with this tremendous danger of existence of the whole of humanity. Because the atom bomb, the wars, whether it is in the Middle East or somewhere else, the...

  • Share This Quote

    What is conflict in human beings? Why does it exist? It has existed for thousands of years, whether it is in the Far East, or in Europe or here, conflict has been one of the major problems: violence, the pursuit of violence, and the pursuit of ideals and so on. What is conflict? If we could discuss that, and understand why human beings have not...

  • Share This Quote

    Or we think we are, thought asserts that you are related but actually you may not be related because unless - again, it appears - unless we find that a human being can live with another, intimately or not, sexually or not, unless one finds deeply the truth of relationship, it appears human beings must inevitably end in sorrow, in confusion and in conflict, whether they go to church, whether they believe in god, whether they do social work or whether they accept various forms of beliefs and all the rest of it, that has utterly no value at all unless human beings have established between themselves a relationship in which there is no conflict whatsoever.

  • Share This Quote

    ...'self-awareness' and the meditative quality in that awareness brings about a religious sense of unity. And human beings need this enormous sense of unity, which cannot be found through nationalities, through all the rest of that business. So can we as human beings, after listening for perhaps an hour, see at least one fact together? And seeing...

  • Share This Quote

    ...Perception, observing, watching. Now we will go into that in a minute, if we have time. But I want to come back to this, if I may: what will make human beings alter - very simply put - the way they behave? Very simply put. This appalling brutality, what will change all this? Who will change it? Not the politicians, not the priests, not the people...

  • Share This Quote

    ...to have this intelligence, to have an insight into something and acting instantly. Can we do that? Is it possible for us to do that? Right? Which means, you see the nature of fear, how fear arises. Shall we go into...

  • Share This Quote

    I am pointing out, not teaching, but together we are investigating, we are showing, we are asking, what is the nature of fear, why does fear exist at all? You can find ten different causes, according to the specialists, the professionals, you know, heredity, many, many reasons they give you, but the reasons, the causes are not the fact. The fact...

  • Share This Quote